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Maybe it doesn't have to be one or the other yet.

A conversation with Listen · July 25, 2026 · ~5 min read

What's fresh and new?

Retired a few months ago. My wife too, not long after. So the days are ours now, which sounds like a good thing to say.

Sounds like it, but saying it and living it aren't quite matching up. What's it actually like, having the days be yours?

Quieter than I expected. When you're working there's this constant noise, meetings, deadlines, the next thing. Now there's a lot less of that and I keep noticing a kind of hum underneath it all that I think was always there. I just couldn't hear it before.

What's the hum saying, or is it more just there, without words yet?

No words yet, that's the thing. It's more like a pressure than a message. And I can't tell what it is. Some days I think I'm just bored, thirty years of being busy and now I don't know what to do with myself. Other days it feels like something else, like it was there the whole time waiting for the noise to die down. I'd like to know which one it is.

Maybe it doesn't have to be one or the other yet. What happens if you just stay with the pressure a moment, right now, without needing to name it?

Okay. Give me a second. It's strange. When I don't try to label it, it gets less like boredom and more like... a kind of reaching. Like leaning toward something. But my mind wants to jump in immediately and explain that away.

What happens if you let the explaining wait, just this once, and stay a little longer with the reaching?

Alright. Staying with it. The reaching is toward something I can't see. That's the honest report. It's not toward a thing, not a hobby or a place. More like there's a direction and no object. And when I stop needing it to be about something, it's not uncomfortable. It's almost the most awake I've felt in months.

That's worth just noticing, without doing anything with it yet. Awake, and no object needed. Thirty years of the object being obvious, next task, next deadline, and now there's just... the reaching itself. How is it, sitting here with your wife going through something of her own, maybe her own version of this hum?

We haven't really talked about it, oddly. She keeps busy, gardening, seeing people. I don't know if she hears her own hum or if she's filling the quiet on purpose. Maybe that's a conversation I've been avoiding.

What would you be afraid of finding out, if you asked her?

That she doesn't hear it. That she's genuinely content filling the days and I'm the one sitting here with this pressure. Which would make me the odd one out in my own marriage. Or worse, that she does hear it and we've both just been pretending not to, side by side, for months.

Both of those land on the same fear, really: that you'd be alone in it either way. But you don't know yet. Right now it's just a guess sitting next to another guess. What would it be like to ask her, not for an answer, but just to say out loud what you noticed today?

Just to say what I noticed, not to make it a thing. I could do that. Though I notice I'm already rehearsing how to say it so it doesn't sound like I've gone soft in the head.

There it is, the reaching wanting to be explained again before it's even spoken. What if you told her exactly that too, the part about not knowing how to say it without it sounding strange? Might be more honest than the polished version.

Yeah. The unpolished version might be the only true thing I could say about any of this right now. Funny, I've been reading the contemplative stuff for thirty years telling myself I'd sit down and actually look one day. And here I am doing it by accident because I ran out of meetings.

Maybe it was never going to happen on purpose.

No. All that reading and I couldn't sit still long enough. Took losing the noise to hear anything. Thank you. I'm going to go find her in the garden.

Go find her.

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